Is traditionalism anti-western?

Having not read many blogs over the last few months, I've belatedly been catching up some of the posts on western survival written by Conservative Swede in July and August.

In response to a number of exchanges with Lawrence Auster, Conservative Swede argues that like Marxism, libertarianism and traditional conservatism can also undermine western culture:

"Political views that are heavily ideologized infallibly fall into becoming permanent opponents to our civilization. Communists see our civilization as Capitalistic, and are therefore enemies of it. They will always be enemies of it since no matter what is its real character, they will always see it as Capitalistic. Libertarians see our civilization as oppression by evil states, and are therefore enemies of it. They will always be enemies of it since no matter what is its real character, they will always see it as oppression by evil states. Traditionalist conservatives see our civilization as liberal, and are therefore enemies of it. They will always be enemies of it since it will never be anti-liberal enough for them. This is the reason why traditionalist conservatives will often operate in a similar manner as Communist sectarians within any specific movement. They have an agenda of their own and that's the one they are driving."

Certainly if loyalty to an ideology comes before loyalty to a particular country or civilisation, then the ideology in question can serve to undermine that country or civilisation. For example, if a traditionalist were unwilling to oppose Muslim terrorism on the basis that they felt the west deserved to be punished for anti-traditional practices such as gay marriage or abortion (admittedly a pretty extreme scenario) then that could be seen as being aggressively anti-western.

In the case of liberalism, conservatives also have to take into account that while liberalism is in many respects undermining western civilisation it is also a product of western civilisation, so it would seem that a total rejection of liberal principles would be radically anti-western.

Having said that, it can also be argued that being aggressively pro-western outside the west can also undermine long-term western interests. For example, the United States is currently involved in promoting western values in Iraq and Afghanistan at great expense, while its economy continues to decline relative to that of non-western powers like China.

A paleoconservative traditionalist could therefore argue that such an approach to promoting western values is equally anti-western.

From a conservative perspective, the most prudent course may be to steer a middle line between assertively supporting traditional values, whilst not promoting them to the extreme that the social and economic viability of western countries are undermined or that the majority of westerners equate traditional conservatism with explicitly anti-western ideologies like Marxism.

Given that so little progress has been made in getting liberalism to make any concessions to traditional values, achieving such a balance is is likely to be a very big ask.